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https://x.com/winc_gaming/status/1977052278969581747?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

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https://x.com/knoebelbroet/status/1977010647427895420?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

Marathon, you may need to see this…

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Game is still a f***ing pain to play. You still have to do a QTE when you want to pick up ammunition or extinguish fires…with your hands. It’s just not good enough in that state, but they should think about making a fun game first. It could be really good, but I guess it’s just too late now… It sucks because I really like the vibes and infinite potential of the game.

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For the non-Musk supporters.

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While I get that, this could interpret that I am one, which good god no I am not. But seeing how many of them are now appearing more and more there, I may migrate. Just need some of outside state handler now.

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Yeah, I hope Xbox is helping the devs and try to get this game on the platform.

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lol how would xbox help? they have a dev kit, they’ve released games on xbox before. they don’t need help.

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As we all know there has been a lot of negativity lately about Xbox, and personally I’ve skipped most of it. But today I watched one video and he was covering the recent PS6 “tease” by Cerny and then went on to say “next Xbox, if they don’t cancel it.” What I’m getting at is…

Game Pass is profitable for Microsoft, isn’t it? Hardware isn’t, but GP is. I assume that the majority of GP users are Xbox console owners, or is this information Microsoft has not shared? Because with that in mind, if they were to just call it quits, no more Xbox hardware, what then?

Game Pass stays existing and making money, but no new hardware, so where do the Xbox console owners go to? Some will go PC, sure, but plenty won’t and I don’t see GP going to PS platforms anytime soon. But new games keep getting added, so with no new Xbox hardware wouldn’t a lot of subs just get cancelled?

I see that as another reason why all this cancellation talk is just silly.

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Imo, since they get a cut of every game, dlc, micro-transaction sold in their store, Microsoft would lose a large chunk of money if they just got rid of their hardware to tie people to their store. On PC is likely people will just go to steam if Xbox hardware isn’t there to emulate the current Xbox, and keep the Xbox users ecosystem in place.

Even if their hardware plans is to have OEMs make hardware.

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The big misdirect all these doom and gloom folks ignore is that hardware was never profitable. Consoles subsidizing hardware and taking losses was the norm because they’d make that up through software sales. Xbox was the last holdout with Sony and Nintendo doing everything they could to power the cost of production and sell consoles at cost. Now Microsoft is following suit during an awful economy after seeing that new gamers aren’t really popping in the market anymore and old gamers are willing to spend more or are happy where they are. Xbox hardware has sold fine, and always the real money is all the software sales on Xbox which continue to be strong. Xbox is the smallest console platform, but Xbox gamers on Xbox consoles continue to show spend a LOT on games (or in games) and have a really good attach rate. Microsoft would be foolish to drop them (us) like a sack of eggs because they love money. They probably want to convert us to a platform they think will out last the console market and allow them to maximize their resources (pool windows and console gaming together), but they know they can’t just immediately force that change without losing a LOT of money. And like you said new games keep getting added. Xbox has been REALLY good with marketing and being at events and getting new games AND PORTS on Xbox consoles (a lot not Xbox play anywhere so it’s not for PC gamers at all). Crazy really. Xbox has been dead silent and non-existent in some years past and people have been less negative toward them. And now they’re expanding with software sales elsewhere and a steady consistent stream of money through GP.

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I think about this at a really high level.

  • The video game market is gigantic
  • MS has a sizable slice of this pie already with hardware and software across all digital stores
  • MS believes game streaming is the end game to access billions of customers
  • MS has a huge competitive advantage with game streaming with existing data center infrastructure and a huge need for additional computing power

After all these years of trying to grow out of their ho hum market share, they are so close to taking a big swing. They just need one more generation to get fully there.

To me the biggest obstacle is keeping the 3rd party support they have now. They have to make it ridiculously easy for developers to create xbox store versions of their games. Every gen they say this is a focus, but this time it must materialize. If devs can’t easily make money on the xbox stores, that support will dry up.

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https://x.com/wario64/status/1977210908301836513?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

Introducing new Dissidia!

Oh!!!

…for mobile.

Oh…

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I can actually see the gacha format working for a Dissida game. Not sure about the gameplay.

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It doesn’t sound like they need any help from Xbox to be honest, it was their decision to NOT release exclusively on the Xbox and they don’t seem to have any plans or even intention to support the platform so as I said yesterday the only “help” they are probably seeking is a Game Pass moneybag. Porting from the PC version shouldn’t be that hard or expensive so…

Now about the game, it looks fun but the rogue-lite design of the game is a turn off for me personally so I couldn’t care less if the game never comes to Xbox, still a part of the fanbase is interested in this beat-em up/rogue-lite mash up so I can understand why they are frustrated. Still if the devs and/or the publisher don’t want to put the game on the platform we or id@Xbox can’t do much. :man_shrugging:

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My conspiracy is that the Mick Gordon Bethesda falling out has something to do with it.

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  1. Xbox really needs a good forced patch notes experience. I hate having to go online to Steam and check the community tab to find out what the heck was in my update on Xbox. I didn’t even realize Monster Train 2 got new content until like weeks after I downloaded the updated (I had long since finished the main game and shelved it).

  2. Okay, don’t sue me, but I’m greatly glad about the increased GPU point gain. I just got 700pts for my weekly game pass streak; it was 400 before (I didn’t realize last week because I missed a day). Considering that I’m just rolling off of my existing stacked GPU sub, this is just nice. I’m currently sitting at 180k. I’m gonna keep saving and see if I can buy the next Gen console or elite 3 or something cool through just points.

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But isn’t there another game that’s coming soon has his work as well, let alone in Game Pass Day One?

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Agreed.

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Are conspiracies supposed to be realistic?

Does anyone anticipates that we see konami hoping on the play anywhere wagon alongside square enix and sega on the japanese side of things or not?

I would be very interested in seeing the octopus game be a play anywhere title alongside any suikoden game or remake.

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