Games Analysis |OT| Time To Argue About Pixels And Frames!

[LucasTaves]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

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Game is a native app on both PS and series X|S PS5 1440p - support for adaptive triggers Series X 1800p - series S 1350p-1170p Every console is upscaled to 1800p Xbox Consoles have texture streaming delay Patch for PS5 in works to raise resolution Edit: Patch for series S as well to make it lock 60 FPS (adjusting resolution) and a 4k 30 option. Frame drops are bit tricky. Frame rate drop is more on PS5 (can go upto 50 FPS sometimes) . On series X frames drop to only 55 sometimes during traversal due to streaming issues.

Yet another native game where the difference is bigger than the usual for last gen in favor of SX.

Good to see tools improving fast

[Space_nut]

@LucasTaves

Yet another native game where the difference is bigger than the usual for last gen in favor of SX.

Good to see tools improving fast

Yup! excited to see more great uses of the XSX hardware in the future!

[proelitedota]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

They say it was native app. No mention of GDK/SDK.

Also, PS5 doesn’t have streaming issue and it still drops to 50 FPS at that door stage where X only drops a frame at that stage. So performance should degrade further atleast at that stage on PS5 after patch.

That part is likely staying at 1440p on the PS5. In fact they should probably lower the res to 1080p at that part.

The gpu gap in this game seems to be 18% based on the fps gap at that part, assuming both consoles are at 1440p due to DRS.

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

@proelitedota

That part is likely staying at 1440p on the PS5. In fact they should probably lower the res to 1080p at that part.

The gpu gap in this game seems to be 18% based on the fps gap at that part, assuming both consoles are at 1440p due to DRS.

Resolution wasn’t mentioned at that part. DF analysis is getting plain these days. Not same as before.

[proelitedota]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

Resolution wasn’t mentioned at that part. DF analysis is getting plain these days. Not same as before.

Yeah. Alex should do more of these. He always gets the exact numbers for you.

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

@proelitedota

Yeah. Alex should do more of these. He always gets the exact numbers for you.

Alex is the best.

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

New analyst in Town

PS5 vs Xbox Series X 120fps Comparison (Fortnite, Black Ops Cold War & More)

[TavishHill]

@ProgStopper

So a wash?

More like wait and see post-patch. The XSS resolution decision was bonkers, lol. No idea wtf they were thinking there.

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

New analyst in Town

One can use 120Hz option of series X while playing the game at 60 FPS. Hence, reduced latency can achieved. Great😀

[Mesiac]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

New analyst in Town

HDTVTest do some great work!

[CallMeCraig]

I don’t understand these unstable framerates when a game has DRS. This should stay very close to the target framerate, what else is the point?

[proelitedota]

@CallMeCraig

I don’t understand these unstable framerates when a game has DRS. This should stay very close to the target framerate, what else is the point?

Well if the fps issue is not caused by a GPU bottleneck, i.e. the streaming hitches on the X, you cant do anything about that graphics code wise.

As for the perf on the S, the lower bound of 1120p is way too high. 720-900p would have been a perfect lower bound like it is in AC Valhalla and Hivebusters, and then reconstructed to 1440p.

[CallMeCraig]

@proelitedota

Well if the fps issue is not caused by a GPU bottleneck, i.e. the streaming hitches on the X, you cant do anything about that graphics code wise.

As for the perf on the S, the lower bound of 1120p is way too high. 720-900p would have been a perfect lower bound like it is in AC Valhalla and Hivebusters, and then reconstructed to 1440p.

I would thought the content streaming runs asychronously and shouldn’t impact the rendering loop.

[proelitedota]

@CallMeCraig

I would thought the content streaming runs asychronously and shouldn’t impact the rendering loop.

I mean we saw a similar issue in Control and that was patched.

My guess is that devs uses the CPU to decompress on the X via a common lib instead of using the XVA silicon. They later patch it to use the hardware decompressor and that’s where the issues cleared up in Control.

[BRiT]

Not pixel related, but its a good thing to see game sizes shrinking now that current-gen systems have better compression support and fast NVMEs. Install sizes are around 50%, 45GB/40GB down to 20GB/22GB.

Details from Crash Bandicoot 4 File Size cut to half on PS5 and Xbox Series X/S

• 30.01 GB – Xbox One (without day one patch)
• 45.38 GB – PS4
• 22 GB – Xbox Series
• 20 GB – PS5
• 9.4 GB – Nintendo Switch

The game has a file size of 45GB on PS4, while the Xbox One version takes up 30GB, without the day one patch, which increases its size to 40GB

[ElPutoXD]

@BRiT

Not pixel related, but its a good thing to see game sizes shrinking now that current-gen systems have better compression support and fast NVMEs. Install sizes are around 50%, 45GB/40GB down to 20GB/22GB.

Details from

• 30.01 GB – Xbox One (without day one patch)
• 45.38 GB – PS4
• 22 GB – Xbox Series
• 20 GB – PS5
• 9.4 GB – Nintendo Switch

The game has a file size of 45GB on PS4, while the Xbox One version takes up 30GB, without the day one patch, which increases its size to 40GB

Does this use the Kraken compression method on PS5? How does that work? Is it only usable on next-gen exclusive games?

[brunopcosta1]

John Linneman

Prey + Dishonored: FPS Boost Is A Game-Changer For Xbox Series X|S - And It's Not Just About 60fps

[Biggzy]

Damn! The loading times on Dishonored .

[CallMeCraig]

Yeah, reloading a save after beeing discovered in Dishonored is basically instant. Smooth and fast, very nice upgrade

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

I had my jaw dropped on those loading screens!