The Big ol' Xbox 3rd Party Releases Discussion Thread (HiFi, SoT, Pentiment, Grounded) (Part 1)

Of course.

At this point it would be incongruous (or downright dishonest) for anyone to attempt to downplay all of this & minimize the unfolding disaster for Xbox consoles (& the people who play on them).

It’s a sh*t situation which MS themselves have created & are allowing to spread, i.e. almost like controlled demolition via the spread of progressively worse rumors. It would take a huge dose of copium & suspension of disbelief for anyone to look at the recent stories & conclude Xbox is in good shape, the future is bright & console owners & fans have nothing to worry about.

So it’s not just Korean media saying the above, it’s practically everyone. The console ‘war’ is dead & no, it’s not good news. Competition in the high end console space was essential. I feel Xbox have gone & destroyed that by chasing mega acquisitions which put their software output beyond the reach of their hardware output & thus made the top brass choose the former (i.e. software distribution everywhere) over the latter (hardware sustainability & ecosystem loyalty).

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With Headlines and talk going around as it is right now (look at Korea and all the gaming media sites) waiting until next week is not a option IMO.

The house Xbox built is burning, people are leaving/ready to leave and your response is we will deal with it sometime next week maybe, possible, if we can be bothered.

You know Hargeet did say one possibility was this was always a big hoax to weed out the insiders with in the company so that information could be better controlled. I’m thinking there is a possibility non of the rumors are or ever were true.

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It would be nice but unfortunately it’s not remotely possible.

A/this is tanking the Xbox brand right now & B/leaks are inevitable in an operation which employs 22,000 devs. If they catch one leaker today, two more will pop up next month & so on. Catching them is a futile exercise (especially during a time of layoffs), i.e. something certainly not worth burning the brand down to the ground for.

So unfortunately, it’s pretty much all real at this point, i.e. minus a few details or exaggerations here or there.

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This is legitimately fascinating. I don’t trust colt, but fonz is a bitter old man like me so his reaction was very genuine in terms of ‘who’ it was.

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“Weeding out” leakers like this would be like putting loaded guns in your office to see who will shoot their boss after you heard someone insulting the CEO while you were doing #2 at the restroom.

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Yup, zero point in selling now. At least wait until the news is official, and if it is, you may as well wait for the PS5 Pro. Cashing out now at the first sign of danger to buy an inferior console makes no sense.

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To be fair, I don’t even think this would be difficult. We can probably safely say at least some Xbox games are going to be multiplatform moving forward, but all the stuff beyond that is just swirled in rumours from unverified sources that could all just turn out to be complete nonsense.

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I actually cant get my head round the rush. It just seems like such a knee jerk reaction to something without confirmation or context. Fair enough if you hate what they announce but at least give MS a fair shake to explain. They obviously werent ready for this to be announced yet so why not approach in good faith and let them get their ducks in a row. Can still make your big dramatic exit and “Dear John” tweet at a later date.

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I wouldn’t sell anyway.

It’s highly likely the Series X will be the ‘definitive’ Xbox to play all Xbox games on, save for those which were never given backwards compatibility. It has a disc reader, it plays current gen, last gen & 360 gen titles & it has the best versions of the Xbox One era games due to its superior handling of backwards compatibility.

I mean all tech becomes absolute anyway, ergo as a collector of games & systems, I think my Series X will always have a place in my house, even as a legacy system which plays some old classics.

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Yeah, I don’t really like trust anything Colt says. You can watch a couple of videos of his to know he will say just about anything for clicks. All we can do is speculate, but the truth is likely not coming out until Xbox releases their “business update” next week, which I’m honestly not even sure will give us definitive answers. We all know how Xbox is with communication.

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Based on previous communication I think it will give us a rough idea what their planning but as usual it will be open to interpretation.

I’m hoping I’m wrong but that’s what we’re used to at this point. Any more vague information will not help calm the situation at all.

Huh, ok?

Well, on to next week then!

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BTW it doesn’t take a genius to figure out what happened: MS acquired two publishers & a total of 22,000 developers which the Xbox hardware install base is not large enough to accommodate for. It’s a sudden & unsustainable growth for a platform with roughly 30 million or so hardware owners & Gamepass subscribers.

That’s what happened. I mean after the initial ‘surprise’ at the news, it’s fairly obvious the Activision acquisition put too much sudden pressure & strain on the hardware division to sell enough consoles & achieve high enough the Gamepass subscription numbers to make the entire venture profitable.

Third placed Xbox basically cannot sustain 22,000 developers & all their output by itself. The business grew too fast beyond the scope of their hardware & services reach. Now console users are going to be in a worse position because we’re back to square one with Bethesda & Activision (which were always multiplatform anyway), it looks like Xbox Game Studios content is going multiplat as well (gross) & the hardware will take a nosedive because there’s going to be no point buying it when all their games are available elsewhere.

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One thing that confuses me is on Sunday he was posting like he had the full picture, responding to that Paul Tassi (i thnk) article about how crap Microsoft have made Xbox for the ecosystem…then a day later he’s saying how everything will be fine and everyone panicked early? Seems very weird to be honest.

On a side note, even though i’m not a big fan of his, i am surprised we’ve not heard anything from Jason S on this. He’s usually quite direct and definitive with his comments on stuff and given how big a story/rumour this is i’m surprised he’s not tried to get clarification on what’s happening (unless he’s actually doing his homework before commenting)

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He just announced his new book. Don’t think he wants anything else but talk about that on his twitter timeline.

Or setting your house on fire to kill a spider lol.

We know the “business update” or whatever is next week but when exactly? Monday? Or Friday?

Then I genuinely hope we all will be looking back at this week next week thinking “boy, we’ve been some foolish suckers believing all these rumors.”

If it’s not so bad after all, what do they consider as that? Better yet, what would You all consider as not so bad?

Waiting another full week after a full month of wild speculations (already damaging the brand like never before except 2013) is the latest sign of Xbox higher-ups being severely detached from reality, honestly I’m not positive about what they will say (Phil tweet was full corporate language) and it’s very likely I won’t buy any of their scheduled new hardware, the risk of disengagement (they didn’t even seriously tried with Series, how could they convince me they will try with the next?), false promises and under-delivering is simply too high, I am in the ecosystem since 22 years and I know it for a fact (except initial years, when it was an actual videogame company, not a playtest for bizarre MS strategies, from Kinect onwards). I’ll keep my consoles to play games I have, then pc is the way to outmanouver platform holders which never keep their word (all of them).

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