Xbox Game Studios |OT3| Once more....with feeling (Part 1)

That would only work if there was also a playstation or nintendo pass on Xbox. In an Idea world we could play all games on all systems. This whole exclusive thing is only good as long as the games are on your system. Imagine GTA would be exclusive to one system, that would be annoying for everybody but the ones who have the system. I understand everyone tries to carve out their marketshare. But I would much rather see they battle on hardware then on exclusive content. Imagine netflix, hbo etc would be hardware restricted. I think the whole industry needs to finally make the transition from this oldschool thinking that specific games can only be played on specific hardware. I mean technically it didn’t make sense for 10 years or more. The times are long gone. Any exclusive is only artificial today

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there’s something you’re missing here. At the point where gamepass is big enough or xbox’s philosophy has changed enough about what’s their ecosystem consist of, the platform will no longer be a plastic box or a pc or a phone, it’ll be a Gamepass subscription. That subscription alone shall be self sufficiently characteristic of the ecosystem, so by putting gamepass on PS or Switch, they’re not eliminating the need for their own platform, because the platform itself is being propagated onto those devices.

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If Game Pass were available on PS5 then there would literally be no point in Xbox consoles. At that point MS should get out of the console business as they don’t want to compete. Just buy the PS5 and play all of Sony’s games AND XGS games without ever needing to go into XB’s walled garden. Switch is a little different because the Hardware is not anywhere close to on par with Xbox HW. Even then if you could buy all of Nintendo’s games plus sub to GP and play all of XGS’ games then there would be one less reason to join XB’s walled garden.

I don’t see any long term benefits for MS to put GP on any other console. In fact quite the opposite because if Xbox leaves the console business that would give Sony around 150 million to 200 million console sales. You can be damn sure Sony would gladly turn their PS consoles into mini PC’s running Linux and chrome browsers. This would effectively put a cheap legitimate contender to Windows in many homes. With newer console sporting real CPU’s and descent GPU’s they should perform better than the majority of PC’s in homes right now.

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Oh yes, all on one system? I would be so down for that really. As long of course we have the Xbox controller with that lovely, lovely battery life, haha

I don’t think it’s going to happen anytime soon, if ever, but fact is Phil did not say it was out of the question. He did say it was up to Sony and Nintendo, also that right now it absolutely wasn’t a focus for them. I partly agree with that a exclusive doesn’t matter as long as it’s on systems I own, because personally I highly prefer to game on Xbox platforms, even when sometime this year I’ll also have the PS5.

But yeah, you’re right, I want to see them battle on hardware too and Xbox has been doing exactly that. Phil made sure not to lose on the power front and I expect they will go hard for exclusive content too. They sure have been doing that when it comes to getting studios. But the fact is that console isn’t a priority anymore, not really, getting people on Game Pass is. But hopefully impressive sales for XSX/XSS will show them that the console itself is very crucial too. Because as cool as XCloud is, it’s not for me. My internet connection wouldn’t be enough, it isn’t 4K,i want the lowest input lag and I just love having a actual console.

So let’s hope the future holds more Xbox systems. :slight_smile:

pretty much this. Xbox just needs to sort its infrastructure on the console blades side and the rest of the platforms will just propagate from there without additional porting work required at all.

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These takes make no sense when Game Pass games will be available to play on iOS, Android, Samsung, LG, Sheild TV, Roku.

Why is being available on Playstation or Switch an issue? Game Pass (via xCloud) needs to be availablr everywhere possible.

Imagine needing a separate box to play Netflix when it could easily run on one already connexted to your TV.

my reason why I think Game Pass won’t be coming to playstation, I think sony is looking into starting their own service. Playstation Now rebranding + better cloud and more devices.

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the problem is the entirety of Playstation’s cloud infrastructure owes itself to Microsoft giving them Azure and PS Now can as a result never compete at the same level as Xcloud.

I could see steam honestly.

lol I suspect he means devices outside of Xbox and PC. But yeah, if game pass comes to steam, I’d love it, cuz the MS Store is dogshit. In fact, I think Gamepass will have a very big surge if it comes on steam, in the same way Grounded or Sea of Thieves had.

Honestly, I would be very surprised if the rumored KOTOR reimagining is developped by an XGS studio (and thus probably exclusive to Xbox / PC, don’t know if it’s something that Disney would want) but I didn’t know that Brian Fargo was a Star Wars fan and that he almost took the direction of Lucasfilm Game at the time :open_mouth:

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Thats very interesting with some rumours from todays podcast, that a high republic game that’s possibly xbox exclusive.

That would be very exciting!

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Honestly, wouldn’t surprise me since they hired the combat director of god of war, well I think that was his position. I do wonder if Disney is okay with star wars being console exclusive, but would be massive if a Microsoft studio is creating it

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Why do people want another Star Wars game so badly as an exclusive? MS should be making new IP, not relying on another companies IP. I mean, give Galactic Battlegrounds a Definitive Edition if you are that inclined but wasting AAA money on Star Wars is catastrophically dumb.

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A good Star Wars RPG would be a draw for the ecosystem.

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A good, brand new IP would be a draw for the ecosystem and would have the benefit of not being at the whims of the mouse. Again, relying on someone else’s IP is not a good idea for the ecosystem Microsoft want to make.

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I have a feeling inXile is going to surprise us all once they reveal their game. For me personally they’ve never been that interesting because their games just are not for me, which is fine. But knowing they are making a AAA first person RPG and seemingly in steampunk style…immediately makes me very interested.

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Why does this sound like a MF dream? :sob::sob:

Owning IP is always preferable. Coming up with a new successful one is a risk though. A Star Wars game will force Star Wars fans into the ecosystem where maybe they can fall in love with some of the original IP.

If I’m not wrong, Spiderman 2018 is the highest selling ps4 exclusive, well above 20 million and Sony had some of the best IP creation this previous generation who all actually sold great, yet none of them could outsell a swingy boi.

Xbox can do the same, have their own horizon zero dawn and Bloodborne and ghost of Tsushima, while also having an occasional spiderman.

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