Xbox multi platform discussion

Its crazy to me how rumours like this spark such engagement.

I sympathise with the people at Xbox who’s job is to message things appropriately when you have people online who know full well that saying certain pieces of vague information will drive engagement and create a negative news cycle. Its rinse and repeat on a monthly basis.

The dooming that seems to happen around the brand when they haven’t even officially announced anything is just exhausting and quite frankly, baffling.

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Agreed. It’s the only single player game I feel likely. Ditto for any other upcoming sequels that has a history on PlayStation, like Outer Worlds.

Aside from those kinds of titles, I suspect it’s primarily GaaS stuff like Forza Horizon and others that have already been mentioned.

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Remember when Phil said not to expect everything to be coming to their consoles.

Yeah, i hate him and his behavior towards the console users of Xbox. Bunch of lies

Like when can we get someone who gives a damn about the hardware and its community on those platforms? Like does he even care about of it and only focusing on Playstation now because that’s were the money is at? Cause that’s like an EA, a once loved company now hated by many, scenario all over again because they focused more on their own greed instead of actually making games fun.

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Bet it’s Stalker 2 which really isn’t an Xbox Game at this point I don’t care anymore I’ll watch them pay 70 talk about it on Twitter how we have no exclusives then cry when we wake up on a random morning and see that Microsoft has bought Take-Two or EA Sports.

People actually think the Xbox console is going away it’s the funny thing about all of this for one it is used in the server racks for Xcloud secondly how long do you think the casuals will keep buying PlayStations when Microsoft will own most of the top publishers in the west.

Look at those charts you see Sports, Minecraft, COD, Fortnite, Roblox. Us the hardcore we love the big RPG’s etc but the casual market can give a damn about any of that MS gets EA Sports or Take-Two and the marketing for those sports titles and day 1 in Gamepass it’s pretty much a wrap they know it too they are just collecting money waiting for Lina Khan’s exit.

You don’t take 70% when you can take 100% you just use your disadvantage and turn it into your advantage until you hold the kings gambit Sony ain’t the competition Tencent is.

Notice how they propped up GeForce now letting it use Xbox Games and be on Xbox. Putting games everywhere these things are to disarm regulators you don’t do that to buy no damn Crystal Dynamics or Sega they are building out a checklist crossing t’s and dotting i’s.

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There is a place you can go if you want the status quo. You can even play some 3 year old Xbox games there.

I’ll be here continuing to enjoy one of the best generations of Gaming I’ve ever had. Thanks in part to services like Game Pass.

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Honestly I don’t think its so much Phil as it is Satya. He’s an everything everywhere guy. He said as much himself, he doesn’t understand/like the need for exclusives in the console business. Xbox division ain’t in charge here its Microsoft’s ballgame. It is what it is…

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I know this is anecdotal but Forza Horizon is one of those games that I always see comments in YouTube videos saying that it’s the one game that makes them wish they had an Xbox and that people have bought an Xbox for that game alone.

We don’t know what game it is but it does seem like Xbox has given up on hardware. That’s just how Microsoft is they don’t have a lot of fight in them. They don’t often like to course correct or take some time to understand the market. If things aren’t working out they pull out.

I think so much of this problem is marketing (not to be confused with advertising, but advertising is a part of marketing).

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They’re all suits. Some are better than others at pretending they give a shit about what they’re selling.

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What about Wolverine and rumor of holding rights to a lot of x-men characters? I don’t think the leverage could go that far

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They have the X Men movie rights too (EDIT: nope they don’t, doh!)

Sony does not. Fox had it, and then it went back to Disney after Disney purchased Fox.

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Just like they pulled out of mobile and are now nearly completely irrelevant in it. Their mobile store isn’t going to make that much of a difference because a lot of devs hate Microsoft and won’t put there more popular apps in there stores(even if Apple and Google are screwing them over, the hate boner for Microsoft is just way more important for them).

Just look at how long it took to update YouTube to be a match for the PS app on Xbox. Also, the windows store benefits from Xbox because of things like play anywhere, no Xbox means they will get less ports of games to their store and less 30% cuts over all.

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You’re right, my bad - I knew Marvel didn’t have them and had it in my head it was Sony, but think I’d got it confused with Venom and those spin off characters.

I’ve had it in my head that way for ages so I’m a bit shocked lol, actually pretty surprised I’ve not bothered looking it up all this time

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This.

Sony has only ever owned the Spideyverse characters.

Universal still owned some of the rights up until recently.

EDIT: Reviewing this, there’s actually some characters still owned by other companies including Hasbro, Mattel and a few others.

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This is it, at the end of the day. One big reason why Xbox was successful was because they were like a passionate startup. They wanted to innovate in this space and they did. It carried forward to the 360 with further innovation in online gaming and with things like achievements. Because of their participation console gaming changed forever.

But now that it’s being taken over by suits, you’re seeing far less innovation (because that means risks), more short-term thinking, and less of a competitive mindset.

If you look at Internet Explorer, the whole idea was to get mind share not because the product was superior but rather because it was put onto users. When alternatives became easier to access and more in the Zeitgeist, Explorer became a running joke.

Right now Edge is a fantastic browser because MS realized that they had to become competitive and come out with a better product.

I say that most, as in 99%, of the people working at Xbox are looking to make it more competitive and a superior product. But the suits, the 1% that essentially dictate where the money flows, only care about the financials. This 1% doesn’t even care about mindshare or brand power. No one loves Windows and no one loves Office. People just have to use it. People love Xbox and people loved Zune.

Of all the Microsoft products, the only one I think people have an affinity towards are probably Xbox and its IPs. But do the execs really care about those things? They’ll run those things into the ground in order to serve a short-term profit.

But this isn’t just a Microsoft thing, even though they’ve always been like this. This is a capitalism thing. All the things we love about Google, Apple, Sony and PlayStation, etc. have changed forever as this shareholder focused capitalism has ratcheted up to 11. I could equally rant about PlayStation and how they are green lighting projects, abandoning incredible IP that they are sitting on top of. I could rent about Google pointy fingers at “work from home” being a stated reason why they are less competitive when the reality is that this phrase really means profitability and that they have saturated all of their products with customers and there is no possible growth (and instead of being happy with making money from those customers they are chasing perpetual revenue growth).

I’m sorry if I’m divergent from the topic here and I would normally delete it but I did want to include it in this post because I want to make it clear that I’m just not ragging on Microsoft, or Xbox, or any people in particular (including their leadership) and that I recognize that this is a deeper issue with our modern economy. Shareholders don’t care about passionate people making a product that get consumers excited to spend their money. They only care about how much money they will make and who will make that money for them. I think mentioning this is critically important for people who read my posts critical of Xbox or Microsoft.

Also voice to text is butchering so much of this but I figure that you all understand what I’m getting at.

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You can’t make products that costs hundreds of millions of dollars to create and not be run by suits.

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I don’t want to derail either, but this really hit home for me. The need for constant growth. It is hitting for PS as well, its compounding effect of stagnant console market where dev costs outweigh exclusivity and growth is ‘needed’ by shareholders (although I’m a staunch believer you need some tent pole exclusive IP)

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I’ll go with Halo Infinite multi-player. While it’s obviously the IP that started it all, in 2024, it’s just not what it once was. Besides, the history that this would make due to being ported and released on PlayStation would be monumental. Plus, I can see tens of millions of PlayStation owners playing the multi-player especially if it’s cross-gen (PS4 and PS5) which it probably would be.

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I think I might trade in my switch and games for a PS5 since I honestly haven’t touched it in what seems like forever. I’ll still keep my Series X because I have a massive library of games but I don’t really like the direction Xbox is going in with really the only reason to own an Xbox being gamepass. I think I only played 2 or 3 games on gamepass this whole year so far. I can always just resub when stuff like Avowed and Indi and Age of Mythology come out and cancel when I’m not using it.

I doubt Halo infinite would do numbers on PlayStation seeing it’s not even doing that on PC. Also the Slipspace engine has been pretty difficult to work with and infinite seems to be dependent on Forge as it doesn’t seem to be getting more modes from 343. The game would just be an expensive port of a game that’s on it’s last leg. I think it would probably be Flight simulator. Every other game would require a lot of work and would be expensive unless it’s already was in development. Maybe Starfield assuming they did some work on it for PlayStation before the acquisition, though I doubt it. I could easily see it being State of Decay seeing the playstation community just lost TLOU Factions. SOD would be a good replacement for a community that likes TLOU the last of us.