XboxEra Community Hangout |OT3| Setting Low Expectations

So hyped

I wonder what’s next?

Like March was pretty big for Xbox, and then early April with The Show, but from late April up to the Friday before E3, Xbox was pretty silent.

Now, after E3 has come and gone, and we have a solid roadmap for the next 18 months for releases, what’s next? Do they do Gamescom, or skip that for some focus on Quakecon?

But if Microsoft is hands-off, we can imagine that Bethesda then is handling Quakecon on it’s own, so what comes next then?

TGS?

X021?

TGA?

I’m just wondering when the next wave of news will come for Xbox, like what’s the roadmap for news now. It was obvious that everything was leading up to E3, but now I wonder what the next news roadmap is next.

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Heres to hoping this all or nothing E3 approach is coming to an end.

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Preach.

Gamescom ONL 2021 event

Doesn’t his get a bit murky when you consider both the time value of money and that the majority of customers are low attach, with the minority being high attach. While valid for high attach customers, You can argue the opposite for low attach rate customers however.

A customer who plays two games a year will be immediately profitable for microsoft if using the cloud, vs. buying a console, and only breaking even on the third game a year and a half after purchase, and two years after console manufacture.

Hmmm maybe.

If Quakecon is only going to be the Bethesda stuff, then maybe they do show up to Gamescom ONL with something like As Dusk Falls or Avowed Gameplay (which we now is coming SOON according to some).

I guess we’ll find out sometime in July as Microsoft starts to move the next pieces into play. If they start pushing Quakecon more, maybe they go quiet in August and let Quakecon do the work, then focus on TGS or X0.

I wonder if there’s gonna be an X0 this year to mark Xbox 20th anniversary, even as a digital event, unless Microsoft will announce a limited inperson event in November in either the US or somewhere with eased restrictions.

I really want Microsoft to actually go all-in on TGS like they use to. I mean Halo 3 ODST was revealed as Halo 3 Recon at TGS. I would love to see TGS become important for Xbox again.

Halo Infinite will be the game of this generation. And I mean that literally. I’m sure this game will be played and get content updates for the whole generation.

I’m not saying you’re saying it but tons of people trying to act like console sales don’t matter because of PC or Xcloud.

I think not relying on consoles is obviously the end game for Microsoft in a decade or so once Cloud Gaming fully takes off but as of right now, it’s by far the most important sector for Gamepass growth and it isn’t even close.

We’re both in agreement that using consoles to compare with other competitors is antiquated thinking but it’s still extremely important for Xbox’s growth.

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So excited man, seeing the excitement in my friends for the game has been awesome.

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Yeah, they have material for a meaningful representation at Gamescom, TGS and TGA and even a possible X021.

0 reason we shouldn’t see builds and proper showings of the stuff coming out in the next year or so at different events/“xbox directs”.

Yes but i think on ONL 2021 they should show stuff from ID@Xbox and more info about FH5, Stalker 2 etc. i also think they’re going to have an X021 (hope it’s physical event). but i think they’re gonna bring things really big for TGA because the “competition” there is gonna be big. Nintendo and PS go “all-in” to TGA too.

I can see them bringing Hellblade 2 and maybe Kojima to TGA 2021. :pray:

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I think Hellblade 2 is less likely with the latest information on their status. What got pulled from E3 is what was shown at the event with Paris. I really doubt we see Hellblade 2 soon.

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I’m a console only guy and love my Series X but if we ever get to the point where through an app on my tv or elsewhere I can consistently play games as good if not better than a $500 box, why would I still want a $500 box? The problem is how long until we get there for most people. Not anytime soon where I live sadly.

You may well be right, this is entirely new, really. No one can ever predict the outcome of disruptive tech. For every mp3 game-changer there are 3D home TVs. I think, personally, that the majority of console-designed games are not suited to being played on a phone (at least I don’t like playing them on a phone and I’ve got a comparatively large Samsung S10+), so for this disruptive tech to replace a console I need it to work on my TV, at the same standard as a console.

Of course I could be a minority. Take Netflix, the bitrate that Neflix uses, even at the premium level, is factors lower than a 4k blu ray - it absolutely looks worse, and often grainy, but people are perfectly content with this. Would Johnny Public play an Xbox stream with some slight image degradation if it meant not having a big plastic box? Maybe, if they’re happy to watch films with a low bitrate, who knows, someone is paid a lot of money to make that guess.

But circling back, I can only assume (in Western countries) that this will still centre around sitting by the TV rather than phones in the end. I base this mainly on the ability for couch gaming to fend off motion controllers, kinect, VR headsets, etc. to remain the ‘normal’ way to play these types of games - the type of games that do better on phones are markedly different. I think having the console-style games on your phone will become an ‘and’ rather than an ‘or’, people will have the Xbox or PC as their main hub, and then have the option of the phone/streaming stick for bed, lunch breaks, holidays. This is the same as Netflix, really - in an ideal situation you’d watch the film on your £1,000+ TV in the comfort of your living room, but you will settle for watching on the phone, laptop or the bedroom TV if that’s the situation you’re in at the time.

All guesses, all extending from my own experience/prejudices.

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Having re-read what you’re saying, I see I went off on a tangent. You’re right about attach rates generally (only 10% of PS4 owners bought their exclusive 1st party titles), so by that metric what you’re looking for would be how to get COD, Fifa, and Fortnite into people’s hands as quickly and effortlessly as possible. This would be a play to say “you don’t need an Xbox… but you also don’t need a PS5 either”. The problem from a customer, then, is are they happy to pay £15 per month for a game that they could buy for a one-off £50 (or less on sale/second hand) if it is the only game they play? Anecdotally, I’ve met people who only play 1-2 games for years, usually a Fifa or GTA, they’d be a hard sell for a subscription I think.

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It will never be better. Doubtful streaming will ever hit parity. Plus, the app will be a games pass one, not Xbox. You would have acres to the games pass library, not the whole of the Xbox library.

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When QR works it’s awesome. I’m just straight back into Borderlands 3 and no errors or whatsoever. But once I also had that QR didn’t work for the game, so strange.

Do we have any Xbox Series only games yet? I’d like to find out if QR mostly works with select BC games or also with Series only ones.