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PC is where future growth is. Console audience is getting older and not growing.

Xbox was in the worst position to start with so they were the first to be pushed out. But those same market forces will come for Sony eventually. Sony has more of the walled-garden console pie now, but that pie itself is still shrinking.

That’s just my view. :man_shrugging:

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I already know I won’t be buying a PS6. I’ve been one of the 100 million Playstation owners each gen going back to the PS1, but I rarely touch my PS5 and I find myself playing most games on my PC. Add in the escalation of prices on literally every piece of technology used for this hobby and I just can’t bring myself to care about future consoles and/or graphics cards and the games that will require them.

I’m good playing indie games and retro games going forward if things continue to be more and more cost prohibitive in the future. If Sony wants to lock their games to their hardware, then I just won’t play them. It’ll be their loss, not mine.

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I’m talking about profits tho, i think last years Sony started making more profits than Nintendo, margins are an impossible when PS is a 3rd party focused machine.

And i agree, future is more PC oriented, new generations will prefer a platform where they can do multitask, but still i can see the PS6 beating PS5, specially during it’s first half, with PC being fucked up nowadays thanks to the fucking AI companies, the lack of competence from Xbox and maybe less stock problems than the last gen, but PS7 will have to do very different things for it to be nearly as succesful.

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The MacBook Neo is really interesting. An entry level laptop in the era of computers getting more expensive is certainly a play by Apple, I’m genuinely considering it but will wait for reviews.

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No, just… No. PS5 will be kept alive a lot longer now, and will be the entry level Playstation, depending on how the hardware situation goes could possibly see price reduction in 3-5 years, while the PS6 will be the expensive RTX card.

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Shamelessly taken from GAF:

Logo, concept art, and Assassin icon for Black Flag Resynced revealed

Aside from the image the game is not mentioned by name, but Guesdon says the rumours “have wind in their sales” and to “keep your spyglasses on the horizon” for updates

AC Shadows post-launch support is winding down

Codename Hexe news will remain quiet for a little longer (possibly granting credence to the 2027 rumours)

AC Unity receiving 60fps patch on current-gen tomorrow

Invictus (PVP game) undergoing testing, Jade (mobile RPG set in China) still on the way

Netflix series updates coming soon

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Yeah but if Xbox is just a niche prebuilt PC then this would be like saying Sony doesn’t want people playing their games on an Asus, MSI, or whatever. If Sony does feel this way then Xbox will be as much of a console (threat) as it ever was.

Just more Schrodinger’s Xbox

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I kinda wish there was something similar on the window side. A mobile chip with performance on par or ahead of the M1 at that price is quite interesting.

I might get one for my daughter for high school, at that price it just makes sense, especially with educational discounts.

Sony probably doesn’t want their “premium” games on a similar product to the PlayStation, with the upcoming Steam Machine and rumored Xbox/PC hybrid, in my opinion they should’ve just gone the whole way and made everything exclusive, why expect people on different platforms to buy their live service games but to tell them go buy a PS if they want to play their single player games, like fuck off lol.

I imagine this burns a lot of goodwill with PC players.

I guess they think they can sell more consoles by doing this but I doubt any of their exclusives have the power to achieve that significantly, for example, imo GTA6 will move far more PS5s for them than all of their exclusives combined this generation, but they have the data and I don’t, sure from everything we know they have actually made a lot of money by releasing their game on PC but they must have seen something that spooked them about continuing to do it permanently, maybe they think it will make console sales suffer even more next gen, we know with Xbox at least, the PC strategy definitely had an impact on console sales.

Yes, from a branding perspective, inconsistency is jarring. And it’s not just all the single-player games, it’s just specific single-player games. Like, it’s a brand image play, but for that to work it needs to be a lot more consistent and beyond doubt, like a Nintendo game is always gonna be exclusive and everyone knows that. But now there’s a lot of work to navigate back to that exclusivity centric approach amidst having established PC expectations already while still being on PC case-by-case.

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Windows is too damn bloated and OEM driven for it to ever be that efficient. Mac has the advantage of having complete vertical integration from Apple, they controll every bit of hardware and software that goes in.

It is even worse if it is case by case, so some single player games would go to PC but some others you will need to buy a PS to play them, sure I can see the logic behind that, their big IPs certainly sell a ton and likely do move consoles for them but outside of the launch window I doubt they have that lasting power like a Bethesda game has for example, I think the message is “You could get it all if you just buy a PS” but I don’t know if that’s going to work on PC players, it will probably just keep people who were thinking on making the switch to PC to stay on PS if they care about those exclusives though.

What I meant was that they use binned A18 Pros with 1 less GPU core than the phone, so maybe MS could make a deal with Qualcomm to do something similar with the Elite Gen 3 for example and since it’s a mass produced processor it would help keep the costs down and so maybe offer something in a similar price bracket and similar build quality but with Windows. The base models with the Snapdragon laptop chips are still much more expensive. Like the Macbook Neo is almost at the impulse buy territory where I could see myself buying one for basic tasks when going to visit the family and stuff like that. I understand the nature of Windows but I still personally prefer Windows 11 to Mac OS and my experience with Windows is still positive. Like maybe an Asus Zenbook as those are quite nicely built, at the same price, but with a 120hz display. I’d jump on that!

I really want to see how it performs overall though as I owned a base M1 Macbook Air for a while, and while some people still say it’s plenty for their needs, I actually thought personally that it was somewhat sluggish and ended up selling it after a year, so I wonder how the A18 Pro will perform in there.

It can depend on personal use, native M1 apps on are just insane, feels like another level of computing, but it doesn’t do everything, that’s why you can’t really escape the need for Windows, that’s where most software history is, even if modern apps on it struggle, and gaming. Don’t care what anyone pretends, it’s still a great gaming OS all things considered, anyone who would even try to get all their games working on non-Windows OSs would realize this.

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IGN on X: “Our IGN First “cover story” for March is on Forza Horizon 6! Our exclusive coverage kicks off tomorrow with the thing you probably want most: uninterrupted gameplay! Tune in to IGN starting at 7am PT/10am ET. https://t.co/X9H103MH97” / X

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And as Ryan McCaffrey is fond of reminding Unlocked viewers, Forza Horizon 5 was “IGN’s Game of the Year for 20XX”.

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People have been talking about Xbox being in a precarious position, but Playstation kinda is too. With government regulation, or the threat of lawsuits over closed ecosystems going on there will be a nice target on Sony’s back next gen. Xbox not having a console technically leaves Playstation in a monopoly over the “high end console” market (already a thing from the ATB merger). Not playing nice with Steam, Epic, or even Microsoft could lead to those companies supporting the opening of the PS ecosystem.

Note that recently Android’s closed ecosystem is going away so the idea of these locked down ecosystems is falling. Xbox may just be ahead of the game here, though we don’t really know about the PS6. It would be very on brand for Sony to pop out later and be like “oh yeah us too” in some random bullet point on their reveal powerpoint.

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I don’t know, I kind of feel that how things went during the ABK trials that most of the people that want to help consumers see Sony as being good for everyone(BS) and see Microsoft as a blight(which partially fair). Microsoft themselves likely won’t be able to get that change, Epic would need to do so themselves and I kind of feel that they won’t do it.

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Today’s the day for Marathon. Bungie more or less sacrificed Destiny content for this. Let’s see if that pays off for them. HighGuard, despite being different, must have left them sweating, more than before. I won’t get it as it is not for me, but I do hope they find the audience.

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