Starfield and Redfall delayed to first half of 2023

[Biggzy]

@AtticusFincher

All these delays make the AAA business model feel completely unsustainable long term. The dev time that used to get you the development hell/vaporware label is slowly becoming the new normal and that was pre-pandemic. Makes the acquisition frenzy going on in the industry feel less like stacking the deck and more like trying to maintain the cadence of releases from past generations. Game dev inflation if you will.

I agree the risks are only increasing for AAA development and if you don’t have enough games coming out, a flop can be fatal. It’s also partly why you see more publishers shift to GaaS, as it allows you to build off an existing game and get recurring revenue.

[CallMeCraig]

@Jerm411

Do Sony and Nintendo delay things? Sure…the difference is, you don’t hear hardly anything about the game until it’s almost released or delayed.

Talk to a Nintendo Fan about the next Pikmin, Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3 or Breath of the Wild 2.

Duck and cover.

[Hindle]

Starfield. March 2023.

Redfall June 2023.

[KirthGersen]

@Jerm411

I will say…I think it’s 100% fair to criticize and be upset (rationally) for them giving a date that now according to Jason S. was doubted heavily from the start, double down on it, and constantly hype and hype and hype it…even using employees to do so.

They gotta stop doing this stuff.

Do Sony and Nintendo delay things? Sure…the difference is, you don’t hear hardly anything about the game until it’s almost released or delayed.

Pikmin 4 in development and "very close to completion"

They did a Pro Xbox move with the Metroid Prime 4 announcement as well. Didn’t we get gameplay from Horizon FW before the delay? Same for Ragnarok if it gets delayed…

[Proven]

@Hindle

Starfield. March 2023.

Redfall June 2023.

Your most reasonable post yet

[Boosted_Gear]

Do we think RedFall will maybe have a beta months prior ?

[Hindle]

@Proven

Your most reasonable post yet

I got a lot of disrespect when I first stated my predictions in terms of release dates. Hence the gloating now that its all coming true.

[Resist]

@AtticusFincher

All these delays make the AAA business model feel completely unsustainable long term. The dev time that used to get you the development hell/vaporware label is slowly becoming the new normal and that was pre-pandemic. Makes the acquisition frenzy going on in the industry feel less like stacking the deck and more like trying to maintain the cadence of releases from past generations. Game dev inflation if you will.

tbh, most games don’t take 5 or 6 years to make, even for AAA titles.

[Hindle]

@Boosted_Gear

Do we think RedFall will maybe have a beta months prior ?

Wouldn’t surprise

[Staffy]

@Bits-N-Pieces

I remember being assured way back that Starfield was a lock for a Fall 2021 release, ooft.

Those where the Matty’s, the Skullzi’s and Tubers like that. I remember it too. Saying they heard from their sources that the game was in polishing phase, deep dive guaranteed for E3 2021,and we gullible folks ate it all up.

I mean Matty is good peoples and has good stuff too but that was just not good at all.

[Hindle]

Covid messed everything up across the industry. Huge setbacks everywhere

[Boosted_Gear]

Phil Spencer

[Staffy]

@Hindle

Covid messed everything up across the industry. Huge setbacks everywhere

Yep. Movies too. New spider verse moved into 2023 recently.

@Hindle

Starfield. March 2023.

Redfall June 2023.

Basically five months after the initial release date. Truly hope that can be enough, March sounds like a great month to me.

[Hindle]

Indiana Jones is still 2027, and oh boy will I gloat for that lol.

[Biggzy]

@Hindle

Covid messed everything up across the industry. Huge setbacks everywhere

You literally cannot buy back lost time.

[CallMeCraig]

@Hindle

Starfield. March 2023.

Redfall June 2023.

What do you think will we see this year?

[Staffy]

@Hindle

Indiana Jones is still 2027, and oh boy will I gloat for that lol.

But why though? 2027 sounds so random. Game has been in development for a year now I think? MG have a great track record too.

[Biggzy]

@Staffy

Basically five months after the initial release date. Truly hope that can be enough, March sounds like a great month to me.

Going by Starfield’s original release date and the general one now, it wouldn’t surprise me if both games got a 6 month delay for polishing. So yeah, it wouldn’t surprise me too much if Redfall is now out in say March and Starfield in May.

[SheepDip]

@Resist

if any insider like grub or jez said anything being “locked” you guys can surely post the source of them saying, right?

Does Todd Howard count as an insider?

[Hindle]

@CallMeCraig

What do you think will we see this year?

It’s about time Forza got its dues as a main franchise, instead of support.