I really like Forza Motorsport 8. Iāve played it for 130+ hours, and I think it plays better than Gran Turismo 7 in some significant ways.
At the same time, I can understand how the game felt underwhelming and barebones to a lot of people, especially in the context of a team that put out best-in-class, incredibly deep and feature-rich racing games time and time again for two generations, with 2 year development cycles. Something went wrong at Turn 10 for this game to be the final product of a 6 year effort to rebuild the series from the ground up.
As I said in the other thread, I canāt help but just feel really sad for this game and team to go out with a whimper, after Forza Motorsport being a pillar of the Xbox brand for decades. I want to hope that this isnāt the end for the Motorsport series.
I had a great time with the game as well, really sad to see the disastrous launch it got and how it could never recover.
Forza is till somewhat in a league of it s own imo. Hopefully weāll get another attempt down the line when MS is ready. Maybe another team at Playground to co-develop both Horizon and Motorsport with Turn 10?
Yeah definitely something went really wrong with the development of this game, either mismanagement or they were spreading themselves too thin with their support duties the only thing I know for sure is that Turn 10 was the studio that every Xbox user/fan was sure that they wonāt missā¦and with good reason too since they were incredibly efficient releasing quality racing games for more than a decade but here we areā¦as you said hopefully the team will recover and Motorsport will be back sometime in the future.
Itās really bad news, this Forza have a great gameplay, just needed more single player modes and donāt be online all the time.
My fear are that Xbox donāt make more Motorsport games and just make only Forza Horizon games 
I still hope they can get back to it next-gen, with some kind of soft relaunch with an update, as the game that they have right now is solid. Nothing quite scratching that sim-cade feeling Forza has.
I hope this is just the end for this game and a temporary hiatus for Motorsport, at worst. FM was nowhere near as bad as the zeitgeist made it out to be (it had its missteps, but letās not perform historical revisionism on those that the GT series has suffered for almost a decade now).
Unfortunately, the game and team had to battle the negative-hype-brigade that the media and āinfluencers/manipulatorsā apply to any and all Xbox exclusives or Xbox-adjacent titles, and the absolute stupidity of Microsoft leadership - from their absolutely asinine targets of profitability, to their expectations of being able to support a service title with skeleton crews (yes, Sony has made this mistake more often, but thereās no excuse for MS/Xbox given their prevalence and success in the sector), and I could go on for hoursā¦
I only hope FM and Turn 10 can come back swinging and prove all the naysayers, and MS leadership, wrong.
I wish Microsoft would take a cue from Nintendo and not give up on its games, at least itās āpillarsā. Just think of the Wii U generation that became the Nintendo Switch generationā¦
- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 69.56 million
- Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 33.34 million units
- New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe - 18.53 million
- Super Mario 3D World + Bowserās Fury- 13.47 million
But that doesnāt tell the full story. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the Nintendo Switch sold 36.9 million which was basically a deluxe version of the Wii U Smash Brothers.
Other Switch games like Bayonetta, Mario Party, and Splatoon received sequels. Besides the top sellers Donkey Kong and Pikmin got rereleased.
All this to say. Hey Xbox easy win for the start of next generation. Keep your studios up and running and copy Nintendoās playbook. Especially when it comes to Forza Motorsport. Itās not that complicated. Really Nintendo proved that a bad sales generation with good games can be a huge advantage for your next generation. Or just like lay everyone off and give up, whatever Xbox. 
But the likes of Zelda, Mario 8 sold millions alone on the Wii U. Agree that Xbox does give up on IP too soon unless itās an instant hit like with RECORE
All that said I found the last two Forza games rather boring and stale to play, think the series needs a break for a good few years
As sad it is for Forza Motorsport, itās not entirely bad considering Forza name is still or even larger than ever with Horizon. Not to mention, Turn 10 is still in active and working with something theyāre good at. I donāt see it as the end, more like wake me when you need me. Rebuild like Halo Studios and one day, Motorsport will return.
This.
I think the game suffered from a direction change somewhere during their dev cycle, I remember them doing mocap for the game, but the final game didnāt have much besides a few animations. Iām surprised this happened at one of Xboxās most consistent studios even with OG leaders like Dan Greenawalt still there.
I think the story/gameplay narration elements of the game were stripped back and the game focused more on being a pure sim racer which they did very well but in the end the game felt a bit dry and incomplete compared to old games.
One positive is that the studio has not been shut yet, PG continues to use and update the engine along with T10, new cars are continuously being scanned for FH, so at some point next gen, if Xbox green lights a new FM they donāt need to start from scratch.
Iād personally want PG to co-develop the new FM, there seems to be more concentrated dev talent in the UK working on racing games they can tap into, PG can lean to into their reputation to hire and rebuild the reputation of the franchise.
Wonder if the future of this franchise is just Forza Horizon now, I have to assume that Motorsport makes a comeback at some point, after all Turn 10 was responsible for the engine powering Horizon and also Fable next, amazing how Playground totally overshadowed Turn 10 and made the franchise bigger than ever, hopefully Turn 10 gets another chance, especially now that they can release it on PlayStation and have that huge European market that love racing games.