Xbox 2025 Layoff Thread (crazy we need one...)

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https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1941217307646456201?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

Sounds like 343i. Do updates and others, and we’ll see if we want another game from you.

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Yeah, it likely means this will be the only Forza Motorsports for a while. I do wonder if they will hire 3rd party to help with it though.

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Hm, just gonna say this: Satya nor Amy should be interfering too much with any of this segments of Xbox if all they think about is pleasing shareholders or advance their ambitions of ai, with the latter making me see it as some form of phase that is gonna be snipped in the bud in some shape or form in the next few years(Mostly speaking because am starting to see that certain countries are beginning to form some kind of law around ai in some way similar to how china is handling things).

My two cents and i will leave it at that, however i do think those two need to seriously ask themselves if they should be prioritizing shareholders instead of trying to constantly place unrealistic expectations on the likes of Xbox(Which is pure entertainment, which i feel like both Satya and Amy are acting quite ignorant about in this case nor really seeing how gamers are truly behaving which is part of the critique).

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I’m pretty sad about that. I play FM almost every day or two. I completed every event until they added a bunch… and yeah, it feels like they added a bunch of stuff to do in the last update with some unlocking in 30 days and 60 days which is odd.

The game may be considered content complete, at least for now.

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Haven’t played a game on console in almost two years now, but I remember being so happy blizzard was getting acquired by ms and was hoping there was more to come, if only I knew I’d be scared for studios I love to be owned by microsoft.

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It’s like what I said, though I didn’t know the former employee was out a while back rather than recent.

Yeah, things aren’t great. What should have been Xbox shifting gears into becoming more profitable isn’t enough to make up for the sink hole that’s AI which no one wants to pay for, without cutting people everywhere.

Not much that can be done for Motorsports now, Horizon has the attention of the mainstream and it’s what they need to work on to try and mitigate future layoffs.

Agreed.

Since 2023, Microsoft has been great overall. For me personally -

  • Hi Fi Rush (8.5/10)
  • Redfall (6.0/10)
  • Starfield (9.5/10)
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III (8.0/10)
  • Hellblade 2 (7.0/10)
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (8.5/10)
  • Indiana Jones and the Great Circle (8.5/10)
  • Avowed (8.5/10)
  • South of Midnight (8.0/10)
  • Doom: The Dark Ages (9.0/10)

10 published games in the last 30 months. Outside of Redfall, all were good or better for me. I’m expecting Ninja Gaiden 4, The Outer Worlds 2 and Call of Duty: Black Ops 7 to all be at least an 8.0/10 minimum for me. Outside of Microsoft having an obsession with stacking the Fall and leaving the Summer empty (at least for me anyway), I have zero complaints in regards to their game output.

Towerborne is also at least an 8.0/10 for me but won’t ā€œrateā€ the game until it hits it’s full 1.0 release. I really don’t understand how anyone could have any issues with the above list. It is what it is I guess.

All I know is that for me personally, the Xbox Series generation has already surpassed all three previous Xbox generations individually and will most likely surpass them all combine by the time Microsoft releases their next generation console(s).

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Honestly, this generation for Xbox has been stellar. The problem is back then, they used to have highs and lows. Now, they have the highest of highs and lowest of lows. Worse with this generation (in general) sees positive as decent news and negative as end of world news.

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That article is a complete misunderstanding about business and Microsoft.

Xbox enjoyed a bit of a bubble while Microsoft from the top largely ignored its operations. That was until Activision-Blizzard, of course.

This is false.

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Which lowest of lows exactly? Redfall? Random people losing their job? ā€œXbox dedā€ because of cross-platform? Underperforming studios being closed?

While none of those are great, they’re nothing more than a blip on the radar which happens on a daily basis. Have we forgotten the RRoD or the Xbox One launch? I’d say those were lows.

I’ve literally never been happier with what I’m getting out of Xbox. But I also don’t engage with console war rage-bait nonsense on social media all day.

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i would argue the lowest of lows for Xbox was in 2016/2017 when they layed off lots of people and closed so many studios there were only 5 left.

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On the flipside the Xbox One S was reduced in price massively around that same time (I got one with Gears 4 & Halo 5 and had a good time) and they then released the One X which was solid hardware, so it balanced things out. I’d say the worst of the worst was the original 2013 Xbox One.

Not because of the tv focus or anything like that but because it was $100 more than the PS4 and had Kinect in the box. That was truly a bizarre decision.

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Yeah it’s crazy people are saying a year in which they have 10 game is anywhere near as bad as the years they had 5 teams total

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Point taken. Honestly, the time when they had 5 studios only was a bigger flag to believe Xbox is going third party than now.

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Interesting info from Hoeg Law on Project Blackbird:

  • Team received positive feedback days before the cuts
  • Were tasked with building out an engine and tools from scratch and were ready to move into production
  • Based on a dormant (?) Bethesda IP

Yeah, Shreier talked about it as well, the feedback was from play testers and there was talk about Phil Spencer playing the game and being pretty engaged. The dormant IP is new info though, if the game was moving into production now it likely meant that it wouldn’t be ready for another 3 to 4 years and made it a project they could cut without disrupting anything.

This was pretty much the same story for the 3rd party game from Romero Games, I just hope they can at least find funding with other companies.

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