Xbox Acquisition |OT4| It's Acquisition Season for Xbox with $69 Billion deal, NICE!

[pg2g]

@ChuckeRearmed

As I stated before - if MS won’t be able to reach 30m by the end of this year, then something is very wrong.

This is how you set yourself up for disappointment. Arbitrary and meaningless benchmarks for success.

FWIW, there is something wrong. A shortage of silicon.

[Stefrah]

@ChuckeRearmed

which means more resources into PS Now, servers and so on. In its current form PS Now is better than Games with Gold, but that’s hardly an achievement

So to be clear, you actually believe that PS Now would overtake Game Pass in subs ‘overnight’ if they threw a few more servers at it?

[ChuckeRearmed]

@Stefrah

I have receipts for this in another thread. Based on the chip shortage, constrained console stock, and a lack of big new games, my position has been that 25m by the end of the year would be a solid result.

MS had bunch of new games (big and small) added this year to the service, it has Halo and FH5 coming this year, it launched XCloud in various regions etc. etc. It had 18m last year without all of that. They sold more consoles than they had last year for example.

Anyway, I stated before I give 2023 end as my deadline to see what MS will achieve.

Also we are kinda off topic.

[javycane]

@Hindle

Just leave the superheroes, Harry Potter, with WB.

“Yeah leave the ones that bring millions of people, mindshare and publicity behind, xbox doesnt need those”

[ChuckeRearmed]

@Stefrah

So to be clear, you actually believe that PS Now would overtake Game Pass in subs ‘overnight’ if they threw a few more servers at it?

I stated that if Sony invested more in PS Now (and yes it includes launching it in more regions and at least upgrading the servers), it would already had more subscribers than now. But if it invested more (like launching their own games there), they would overtake Game Pass.

MS throws a lot of resources into Game Pass, if Sony were to throw that amount they would have more subscribers than Game Pass has now.

Anyway, we are off topic.

[BellaBundy]

@ChuckeRearmed

I stated that if Sony invested more in PS Now (and yes it includes launching it in more regions and at least upgrading the servers), it would already had more subscribers than now. But if it invested more (like launching their own games there), they would overtake Game Pass.

I disagree. Especially now, with Microsoft owning bethesda, meaning there games go straight to game pass, PS Now would not pass up game pass. Game Pass has far more benefits and immensely better infrastructure.

[Stefrah]

@ChuckeRearmed

MS had bunch of new games (big and small) added this year to the service, it has Halo and FH5 coming this year, it launched XCloud in various regions etc. etc. It had 18m last year without all of that. They sold more consoles than they hard last year for example.

Anyway, I stated before I give 2023 end as my deadline to see what MS will achieve.

Also we are kinda off topic.

Here is the argument I made previously regarding numbers:

To go from 18m in January to 30m by end-Sept is 12m in nine months – a growth rate of 1.3m new subs each month.

That’s the even higher than extraordinary growth rate we saw between Sept 2020 (15m) and Jan 2021 (18m) of 0.75m per month.

During that period we had the launch of new consoles, and the holiday period. All logic says between Sept and Jan should be the highest growth period of any year by far, so I find it hard to believe that this rate increased through the year – especially in a year when hardware has been constrained, and even on the PC side it’s kind of impossible to build for a reasonable price at the moment, and that consoles launched in that period in 2020/21.

I would think something like 25m by the end of 2021 would be believable.

Xbox Game Studios |OT6| But wait, there's MORE....studios

Hm. Feel 30m might be a bit high. To go from 18m in January to 30m by end-Sept is 12m in nine months – a growth rate of 1.3m new subs each month. That’s the even higher than extraordinary growth rate we saw between Sept 2020 (15m) and Jan 2021 (18m) of 0.75m per month. [Above edited due to awful maths] During that period we had the launch of new consoles, and the holiday period. All logic says between Sept and Jan should be the highest growth period of any year by far, so I find it hard to …

EDIT:

Just read your post fully, and you are right we are off topic. Will agree to disagree.

[ChuckeRearmed]

@BellaBundy

Game Pass has far more benefits and immensely better infrastructure.

That’s why I said “if Sony invested more in PS Now”. I am not asking PS Now (in its current form) compete with Game Pass right now.

[CallMeCraig]

@ChuckeRearmed

Anyway, I stated before I give 2023 end as my deadline to see what MS will achieve.

oh noes, what will happen if MS doesn’t achieve your deadline

[beastmode10]

The gamepass thread would have been a better fit for these conversations.

Or even the PS thread.

[AllianceOfficer]

@beastmode10

The gamepass thread would have been a better fit for these conversations.

Or even the PS thread.

Acquire IOI and Turtle Rock and Crytek then they can be done with shooters for a while and focus on adding WB. Back on track

[beastmode10]

This thread is amazing at how it ebbs and flows.

The mood of the day dictates the nature of the discussion.

• Xbox buys Bethesda - they can buy everything under the sun

• discussions in between – they can buy a few studios here and there

• Gamepsss results not meeting internal targets – they have Bethesda, they don’t need to buy anyone else. Show proof that the Beth acquisition was successful and then acquire.

Almost gives me the feeling that people making strategy plans should just close their business canvases and do impulsive tactical decisions.

[ChuckeRearmed]

I feel like each time some new third party game launches in Game Pass, people want MS to buy the studio.

[BellaBundy]

@ChuckeRearmed

I feel like each time some new third party game launches in Game Pass, people want MS to buy the studio.

Buy ChuckeRearmed

[ChuckeRearmed]

@beastmode10

This thread is amazing at how it ebbs and flows.

The mood of the day dictates the nature of the discussion.

• Xbox buys Bethesda - they can buy everything under the sun

• discussions in between – they can buy a few studios here and there

• Gamepsss results not meeting internal targets – they have Bethesda, they don’t need to buy anyone else. Show proof that the Beth acquisition was successful and then acquire.

Almost gives me the feeling that people making strategy plans should just close their business canvases and do impulsive tactical decisions.

Well, forums are not different from the elderly sitting outside and discussing news and neighbors. So everything is pretty reactive.

@beastmode10

Xbox buys Bethesda - they can buy everything under the sun

There was certainly a period where people assumed that MS can purchase anything. But now, at best we can expect some small studio There is still hope that MS will buy something by the end of the year…Though hope dies last lol

[beastmode10]

@ChuckeRearmed

Though hope dies last lol

Chuckie - stay optimistic, bud. LOL

That last line was quite a downer.

[Friday]

@ChuckeRearmed

There was certainly a period where people assumed that MS can purchase anything. But now, at best we can expect some small studio There is still hope that MS will buy something by the end of the year…Though hope dies last lol

we went from Take two to turtle rock and white owl with some occasional hope for WB without licenses .

[AllianceOfficer]

@Friday

we went from Take two to turtle rock and white owl with some hope for WB without licenses .

EA up next

[ChuckeRearmed]

@beastmode10

Chuckie - stay optimistic, bud. LOL

That last line was quite a downer.

Well, in English I presume the idiom is "Hope springs eternal " which sounds more positive.

[AtticusFincher]

This thread is like Star Wars Speculation reddit right after TFA came out.