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Hmm does not seems like today is another xbox announcement huh :frowning:

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I only need to know this for Cyberpunk 2077 If that game would look the same as Xbox One, I don’t want to play it on Series S

But all old games will be enhanced somehow automatically. We just don’t to what extend.

There’s Pyschonauts 2, As Dusk Falls, The Gunk, and the New Gensis update for PSO2.

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I was talking about AAA blockbuster exclusive games

Xbox 2021 games right now

Halo Infinite probably holiday 2021

MFS 2020 Q1 or Q2 of 2021

40K Warhammer Dark Tide

As Dusk Fall

The Gunk is holiday 2021

Likely Forza Motorsport as well

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MSFS is one of those games that will have an absurdly high first-time players count, but number for MAU won’t be that high. Typically I’d say it wouldn’t even get that many players, but with games pass I’m sure many people will jump in to get a taste of that sweet next-gen.

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People like Tom and Klobrille must be feeling pretty good right now. Basically everything they said was going to happen well back into last fall is happening at this point. Considering the hate and attacks they got I’d be feeling a bit smug right now.

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Forza Motorsport on holiday 2021 ?

the game still in early production so launching FM in 2021 will probably mean the game missing features at launch unless the team crunching hard right now

I think it’s better for the game to release it in 2022

Turn 10 is a super efficient studio and the game will likely launch with +100 cars and stuff will be added throughout the console life. Probably the only Motorsports we get next gen. It makes too much sense

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That’s true but seeing Phil talk about patterning their first party after Nintendo, I’m not expecting a lot of AAA blockbusters in the traditional sense.

Even Sony who has a lot announced only has two which you could consider that (Ratchet and Horizon)

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I guess it depends on the launch content because we don’t want another halo 5 or SOT situation

Also you have to remember Turn 10 is helping 343I on Halo.

ahh Sony i think they have more AAA Games for 2021

GT 7

Demon Souls

Ratchet

Horizon

And this is without counting timed exclusive games

They probably won’t do this anymore since the delay.

Literally any new racing game with a new engine has to remodel every car and normally those games launch with somewhat of 150 cars. Look at any new racing game this gen. Forza 5 started with 100+ models too.

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Jeff Grub had an article where he mentioned 2021 and I’ve seen Jez mention 2021 in threads here so im at least inclined to believe that 2021 is the goal.

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Well maybe xbox has more in 2022? In the end the amount of games is secondary the quality is more important. (No doubt sony will have quality games)

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I personally wouldn’t consider demon souls AAA. In terms of pure stuff Sony has more announced which is why I’m getting a PS5.

I do think in terms of XGS they don’t look at it as AAA but as meaningful releases. It’s the Nintendo thought process. Games like Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, and Xenoblade aren’t AAA but they’re marketed as if they’re meaningful to the platform if that makes sense .

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I doubt we will see GT 7 in 2021. That series is notorious for delays. Horizon is currently slated but I feel like it will slip to 2022 as we haven’t seen any actual gameplay and 2021 is almost here. However, i hope im wrong as im looking forward to horizon. I think when its all said and done we wil see ratchet and demon souls in 2021.

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Man, just came from a Facebook group of game developers who were all peddling misinformation and concerns that Series S is holding back the next generation. Some of em even thought Xbox is gonna keep supporting Xbox one for the entire generation, like where the hell have they been getting all this Lmao

I gave this as a rundown, hopefully anyone else here still having doubts can finally get some clarity on it.

So the console is strictly meant for native 1440p (although I feel 1080p will be the more popular choice). The GPU equivalent would be like a 2060, which isn’t supposed to do 4K gaming at all so you wouldn’t make 4K games try to run on a 2060 in the first place. I have a GTX 1060 card, why would I wanna run the game at 4k when the card is not meant to handle that at all?

Pushing native 4K is a significant GPU hog that’s exactly why companies like Nvidia and Microsoft are coming up with AI and ML solutions like DLSS and DirectML (which the Xbox consoles and eventually PC shall have) for upsampling lower resolutions to higher while not just increasing frame rate but also reconstructing the image to look even better.

All of this is why you see the reduced TFlops from 12 to 4 but that is exactly the purpose, to target a much lower resolution.

Outside this, it shares the same cpu as Series X only at a 0.2 GHz decrease that won’t matter as much. So that means all the AI, simulation, design related tasks shall not be bottlenecked.

Next, it has the same custom NVMe SSD, only at a smaller capacity (which is definitely a downside but that’s not a technical issue at all).

The lower capacity shall be naturally alleviated moving forward for both consoles by building your asset streaming around an SSD instead of HDDs so that asset duplication is no longer necessary for frequent data access, in turn significantly reducing file sizes.

Next, it shall have reduced RAM capacity and speed, which shall be compensated by Sampler Feedback Streaming, basically only streaming in not just fewer MIPs but also only parts of the MIPs for the textures on screen, in turn saving a lot of memory usage in realtime. The reduced speed is probably the only concern to have, and we’ll have to see how developers react to it over time after the consoles have come out and we are well into next gen.

All in all, hope that explains why it’s not holding back anything.

If you were on a pc with a 1050 ti, and a modern game was built with insane graphics, you would simply go to the settings and mess with the toggles, turn particles off, turn this or that to lower settings and you’d still experience the same game. The same thing is happening here with the gpu and that’s the only place where its happening significantly, everything else is literally the same as in the flagship console.

GPUs rarely affect game design, which is why we’ve had such extensive graphics settings options on PCs for decades now.

Hope that explains it. Cheers. :slight_smile:

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If it’s 2022 Horizon will be 2023 I just can’t believe that.

But I also hope we get a Forza Horizon World, just like Flight Sim, after the next normal installment (hopefully Japan). That tech is soooo good.

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Holiday 2021 is their goal for this game but yeah i also believe Horizon will be 2022 title

as for GT 7 it’s definitely 2021 Title