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I think it is running on same code as base PS5 without any update on internal resolution. And FSR is replaced with PSSR. The only acceptable reason I could think of.
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Bullshit.
$529 rtx 4070 will still be better then PS5 pro in every aspect I could think of.
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It is my PC gpu card. Best performance to price ratio card for now.
It delivers more then twice the performance of series x on FH5 and many other titles I have tried.
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Insipid Ghost is spot on here.
I think this is the other potential issue with spending £700 on a potential niche device.
What is required to get the “PS5 Pro Enhanced” label and will third parties actually support it?!
If third parties don’t support it will Playstation just abandon it like many of there other products?
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Devs on all consoles code “down to the metal” on the CPU side. All code is compiled to assembly/machine instructions on the devs machine and then the resulting binary is transfered to the console. The hypervisor doesnt change that. Its an invisible layer to the devs.
This was only different for XNA games on 360 (here the code was compiled to Power PC instructions on the 360 itself when you ran the game).
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Our pretty much only game store we got left still has zero information about the Pro and a potential trade in program. I could swear with PS4 Pro they had info up pretty soon. I’m kinda curious what they would give for a normal PS5.
Buddy said, why don’t you grab a older PS5 from Ebay for a nice price and trade it in once Pro comes out and get that for a way better price. It’s certainly an option that I keep open.
I think there was a post not to long ago of people trading in their PS5 for store credit. Although I think it was US focused.
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Yea I think any thoughts of a fair and balanced Gaming media have been thrown out the window this gen. The Bias came out in spades for all to see in pretty much every way.
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This is quite literally the exact point I’ve been making for years - receipts are all over the forum. You can even extend that to the PS5 to some extent; sure, their moneyhats have helped mitigate the fact but their first-party support has been abysmal.
But more to the point, buying anything of Sony’s that’s not the standard PS is just throwing your money away and has been verifiably the case for more than a decade.
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Personally, Insipid Ghost is wrong as it relates to PS5 Pro because like with PS4 Pro, Sony supported it with all of their published games. Will third parties take full advantage of it? No but in terms of it being supported from Sony and Sony having their studios get the most out of it, I do believe that they will because they did it already with PS4 Pro.
It won’t be abandoned because you’ll have Sony’s games for it. Third parties is just a bonus. Anyone who’s buying a PS5 Pro should be buying it for Sony’s published games, not third parties which is what I did with PS4 Pro. I bought it for Sony’s games. Third parties that took advantage of the PS4 Pro was just a bonus.
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Even tho they almost showed nothing, i must say what i’ve seen on the Digital Foundry video is impressive, specially the Alan Wake 2 and DD2 stuff
Curiously, i think we’ll see bigger visual leaps in 3rd party games vs the Sony ones.
Pretty much every Sony studio avoids using FSR as their upscaling mode, that’s why their performance modes are generally very good.
Third parties instead almost always use FSR, we got example like Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2 looking very dirty, even on the quality mode, sadly, AMD’s upscaler is just very weak when it’s not using the quality or ultra quality mode, which happens a lot in consoles.
Sony should force every developer to use PSSR, or at least to stop using FSR on the Pro, this way the visual leaps will be big even if they don’t touch anything else, specially as the gen goes on and the internal resolution goes lower.
£800 for a PS5 Pro with a disk drive.
I paid £899 for my gaming PC with a Ryzen 7 5800x3d CPU and a RTX 3070ti with 2TB SSD and 16gb ram, 2 years ago.
Bonkers…you’d have to be daft to buy a console at that price.
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It’s funny, I was preaching caution because I wanted full context before making any judgements of the leaked DF notes. I watched the whole video over lunch and felt the complete opposite. Nothing I saw was terribly impressive and I would argue seemed entirely pointless.
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I’m not really sure that Digital Foundry’s analysis of the Pro is that great (in hyping it up terms) or whether the PS5 just looks poor in some games.
Take the Hogwarts Legacy image in the article below - they say one is the PS5 Fidelity RT mode, one is the Pro.
But I’ve played Hogwarts a LOT on my XSX on the same mode - and the image never looked that washed out, over-saturated and fuzzy in the main hall ever.
So unless the PS5 is rubbish at displaying it, it feels like DF have deliberately chosen a bad picture to favourably compare with the Pro?
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I think there’s two parts here.
Will the Pro console be abandoned, no very unlikely. The part he’s raising here is if the long-term support for it is there, which IMO I wouldn’t trust Sony at all.
With the way they’ve been penny pinching recently, do you really think they will continue to give all their teams the extra time and resources (which will be very costly) to create PS5 Pro versions? Maybe for a little bit, however with the next gen consoles soon approaching it won’t be long until they start waivering. Then third party support is going to be even less incensisived.
Instead your just end up with a ‘2TB PS5’ that will essentially be running the same version as the normal PS5, or a version with barely any improvements (the bare minimum).
I understand there’s the PS4 Pro argument, however this assumes the PS5 Pro will sell just as well as the PS4 Pro which seems very unlikely.
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I believe the PS5 Pro will last until PS6 and longer if there’s any cross-gen games for the first year or two from Sony. Third parties are the question mark.
As for Sony penny pinching, Microsoft has been doing the same as they’re worth far more than Sony will ever be. Both companies are simply done taking losses on anything AND I believe that both are setting people up for the high prices of next generation consoles.
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I can see the improvements here but it just seems like nowhere near the jump that was Xbox One to Xbox One X or PS4 to PS4 Pro.
GT7 looked quite good to me though. But I thought it looked great on PS4 already. 
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I agree.
I think this is what hurts it this time around. There was actually a need to upgrade last gen due to 4k TVs becoming a common household item. People wanted to see better picture quality for their new TVs. This time around the upgrade isn’t signifcant and price point ain’t it for many markets. I think what makes the mid gen refresh tricky is they’re always hamstrung by the CPUs.
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