Xbox Acquisition |OT2| Something, Something, Snowball Effect

[peter42O]

@profjjj

The video game market is one of the least concentrated markets around. We are so far from any of the major players having a monopoly that it’s a complete non-issue right now. Those arguing/worrying about industry concentration either don’t know the facts or are just concern trolls.

The only way the gaming industry gets close to a monopoly would be if Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo were to acquire Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo.

In other words, the big three would have to become the big two and even then, it being a monopoly is still debatable.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

@Butters

The prices are most likely very inflated at the moment, so I don’t think 300 million in the current market is that high including IP + Tech.

I personally think Ryse wasn’t that far off from being a good game. If they are able to implement a better combat system (get some inspiration from God of War) and get some enemy/level variety in there you would have a great sequel.

Also I want them to help fix the input delay in Arkanes games. Seriously fuck that! Dishonered 2 feels terrible.

Which Studio would you suggest for 300 million?

I only mention 300+ million because thats what Tencent are rumored to be paying

Assuming MS will have to pay a similar amount to that or possibly more, thats a crazy amount of money that could be used to buy a whole bunch of indie studios or fund sequels to much better IPs that they actually own like, I dont know, a goddamn KI sequel and use that money to build a small to medium sized fighting game studio or some Japanese studios to help diversify their content and plug more genres that they may be missing

Fighting games and Japanese games are two big pieces of the puzzle that is currently missing in the first party arsenal and those are much more valuable in terms of diverification than anything Crytek can provide imo, even assuming Crytek could make something decent which I really dont have much faith in at this point

[maxalpha100mega]

@KakkaKarrotKake

…ecause thats what Tencent are rumored to be paying Assuming MS will have to pay a similar amount to that or possibly more, thats a crazy amount of money that could be used to buy a whole bunch of indie studios or fund sequels to much better IPs that they actually own like, I dont know, a goddamn KI sequel and use that money to build a small to medium sized fighting game studio or some Japanese studios to help diversify their content and plug more genres that they may be missing Fighting games and Japanese games are two big pieces of the puzzle that is currently missing in the first party arsenal and those are much more valuable in terms of diverification than anything Crytek can provide imo, even assuming Crytek could make something decent which I really dont have much faith in at this point

Yep for MS is more valuable bidding for Netherealm or SEGA before Crytek

[Paxton]

@KakkaKarrotKake

…ecause thats what Tencent are rumored to be paying Assuming MS will have to pay a similar amount to that or possibly more, thats a crazy amount of money that could be used to buy a whole bunch of indie studios or fund sequels to much better IPs that they actually own like, I dont know, a goddamn KI sequel and use that money to build a small to medium sized fighting game studio or some Japanese studios to help diversify their content and plug more genres that they may be missing Fighting games and Japanese games are two big pieces of the puzzle that is currently missing in the first party arsenal and those are much more valuable in terms of diverification than anything Crytek can provide imo, even assuming Crytek could make something decent which I really dont have much faith in at this point

My guess is that Microsoft would look at Crytek as how EA looks at DICE, being both the developer and tech provider for the whole company, having CryEngine means that they have their own complete suite and could drop Unreal Engine, but they have the wizards at Id which wonders me that they could put Id Tech back into the licensing business with a developed suite, no need for a new engine. Unless their plan is to have Crytek as the Xbox’s ICE Team with an original game development side.

[Knottian]

@Butters

…Hello guys, long time lurker here Greetings from Germany! I personally think Crytek would be a great addition, if they would change the management. I wrote a short summary of my thoughts in the gamingleaks subreddit just going to copy paste it in here. “I think Microsoft is pretty interested they are not only looking for workforce, they want IP and tech. Crytek would come with both. Other studios inside XGS that use the Cryengine could technically benefit a lot for example Arkane Lyon/Austin. In addition it could close a hole in the lineup with a Ryse sequel.” Not a native speaker so I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.

First off, welcome to the community, we’re happy to have you!

Secondly… you’re already getting on my good side Arkane and several of the teams at XGS have familiarity with CryEngine, among all the other reasons I would argue they’re beneficial

[Knottian]

@PsyDec

Unique geographical location, good IP and one of the best looking engines ever

[Butters]

@maxalpha100mega

Yep for MS is more valuable bidding for Netherealm or SEGA before Crytek

Sega would be at least 10 times more and NR+MK at least 4 times more.

One is a public company, that would take quite some time to work out a deal and the other one is probably only available after the merger.

Money isn’t that big of a factor for Microsoft an acquisition of Crytek wouldn’t rule out future deals for the ones you listed.

[CallMeCraig]

@PsyDec

Unique geographical location, good IP and one of the best looking engines ever

But what has this to do with Crytek?

[Flash]

I am surprised when some people say Microsoft should focus on other studios instead of Crytek

I mean come on guys Microsoft is not normal company and they can do both and maybe more at once

[Butters]

@KakkaKarrotKake

…ecause thats what Tencent are rumored to be paying Assuming MS will have to pay a similar amount to that or possibly more, thats a crazy amount of money that could be used to buy a whole bunch of indie studios or fund sequels to much better IPs that they actually own like, I dont know, a goddamn KI sequel and use that money to build a small to medium sized fighting game studio or some Japanese studios to help diversify their content and plug more genres that they may be missing Fighting games and Japanese games are two big pieces of the puzzle that is currently missing in the first party arsenal and those are much more valuable in terms of diverification than anything Crytek can provide imo, even assuming Crytek could make something decent which I really dont have much faith in at this point

I’m all for creating teams and strengthening partnerships, but this would take years with a higher chance of failing.

Crytek has already a rumored sequel for Ryse in the making. And they could help making the games from Arkane not only be the best, but also the prettiest immersive Sims on the market, so they would get the recognition they deserve anyway.

But we can agree on one thing, Xbox needs more first party content from Japan.

I recommend everyone who doesn’t agree with this to play The Evil within 2!

[Butters]

@Flash

I am surprised when some people say Microsoft should focus on other studios instead of Crytek

I mean come on guys Microsoft is not normal company and they can do both and maybe more at once

Absolutely! Microsofts pockets are deep, the M&A Team got staffed up and Satya is all in.

Today they talked about that they could imagine owning several big studios, outside the usual development hubs.

There is for sure a lot in the coming, but these things take time.

[Knottian]

@Butters

Absolutely! Microsofts pockets are deep, the M&A Team got staffedh up and Satya is all in.

Today they talked about that they could imagine owning several big studios, outside the usual development hubs.

There is for sure a lot in the coming, but these things take time.

I like you Sven.

[Mort]

@Fiendflag

I get that you don’t care about Japanese games and nothing can or will change that but is that “weirdo”, “creep” and “pervert” stuff really necessary? do you think that it adds anything worthwhile to the discussion besides putting stupid labels on people that are judged by how much they like Devil May Cry or not? especially in a very positive and welcoming community far from the usual toxic shit crap like this is totally out of place don’t you think?

btw I’ve never seen anyone calling the DMC or Dragon’s Dogma fans weirdos.

I didn’t say “creep” or “pervert” though… Interesting that you jumped to that.

I actually enjoyed DMC V, it was fun in a goofy way. You might even say it was a bit… weird. Neither did I say that I didn’t care about Japanese games (you really like to put words in my mouth huh?), I said it was overhyped. I liked Yakuza 0 too, and oh that was weird af. I’m not generalizing everything to ever come out of Japan.

How is it toxic? Because I think a lot of anime is crap? I’m not saying you or anyone else is crap for liking it, I’m stating an opinion on how I find other things more interesting and exciting.

[IDmancool]

@KakkaKarrotKake

…Finally decided to sign up here after lurking for weeks, hope you’re all ready for my hot takes Serious question, do the people here want MS to buy Crytek because of actual worth or because “yay, a new acquisition” For 300+ million MS could buy so much better talent and IP than bloody crytek, a company that hasnt produced much more than mediocre at best content for over a decade and as for their engine, im sure MS wouldnt say no to having more engines at their disposal but I imagine they are doing just fine with FTech, Unreal and friggin IDTech As for the people asking for them to be bought for a potential Ryse 2

I’m indifferent on a crytek acquisition. Don’t really care that much if it happens or not.

[MonkeyBoyFrancis]

@KakkaKarrotKake

Serious question, do the people here want MS to buy Crytek because of actual worth or because “yay, a new acquisition”

Someones going to buy them eventually. Might as well be Xbox. At least we’ll get Ryse 2.

@KakkaKarrotKake

For 300+ million MS could buy so much better talent and IP than bloody crytek

I doubt it would be a long list and certainly not many Microsoft hasn’t already approached.

[LoveTheGaben]

@Knottian

Microsoft would be interested as well because of the military contracts surely?

[LoveTheGaben]

Damn many people don’t seem to like Crytek as much as some others. Just because of what they have done with that Engine alone would make me interested as a buyer lol

[CristianTheWriter]

@LoveTheGaben

done with that Engine alone would make me interested as a buyer lol

It’s not that special of an engine now a days. Can it run Crysis isn’t something widely said now a days. Also I think State of Decay was originally in the Crytek engine but it was buggy as heck. All that being said, the Crytek engine just couldn’t compete with Unreal and Unity. Amazon’s LumberYard Engine is Crytek plus Double Helix’s original KI engine mashed together and that isn’t picking up people either.

MS has like 5 engines internally I think they should probably just for a team inside to make one universal ID engine and another for larger projects based of the Creation engine.

[Mort]

@LoveTheGaben

Damn many people don’t seem to like Crytek as much as some others. Just because of what they have done with that Engine alone would make me interested as a buyer lol

I want Ryse 2 so I’m on board!

[LoveTheGaben]

@CristianTheWriter

It’s not that special of an engine now a days. Can it run Crysis isn’t something widely said now a days. Also I think State of Decay was originally in the Crytek engine but it was buggy as heck. All that being said, the Crytek engine just couldn’t compete with Unreal and Unity. Amazon’s LumberYard Engine is Crytek plus Double Helix’s original KI engine mashed together and that isn’t picking up people either.

State of Decay 1 was buggy as heck because it had tiny budget and team at the time. Amazon’s lumberyard hasn’t picked up because there was a massive lawsuit with Crytek over it lol.

Look how good Prey looked and how smooth it played. Hell look at the Crysis remasters and some of the tech they are pulling off in that still.

Ryse son of rome on Xbox one is one of the best looking games of last gen and it came out in 2013 and was changed from a Kinect game in the end of 2011.